#vegans are stupid

[stillarandom-radfem]

"It's accidentally vegan!" Oh, you mean it's complete and total junk food, if it can even be called "food" at all? It's made up of nothing but noxious chemicals man-made in a lab, and has exactly zero ingredients that can actually be defined as real food at all? Gee, how "healthy" you are for not eating animal products. I'm sure eating that all that godawful crap, ahem, delicious "accidentally vegan" food, paired with a diet that is nearly entirely devoid of any bioavailable nutrition whatsoever, won't kill you significantly faster than all of us "unhealthy" meat-eaters would. Gosh, you vegans are so brilliant and special. 🙄🙄🙄

[fang99o]

todd ingram save me todd ingram save me todd ingram please save m

[juniperhillpatient]

the way some of y'all speak so condescendingly to & about vegans & vegetarians or just people trying to recycle or do a little better for the world is sick actually. sorry corporations are the real problem & everything is hopeless but I'm a receptionist lmao I won't fix that in my lifetime but I can minimize the animal products I buy & recyle & try not to buy aersol products & be nice to people. sorry the idea of doing the bare minimum infuriates some of u guys to ur cores but like. get fucked

[comradecowplant]

omg is "vegan" wool & leather often made of plastic???? i've never heard this, can anyone tell me if it is made of oil?????? is it (and only it!) made of plasoiltikblasticfossilossilpetroil?????????????? damn such a shame that vegans and their desire for animal material alternatives single-handedly invented the demand for fossil fuels, better pack it all in fellow vegan/vegan adjacent folks 😔

[masayomi]

so funny to me that ppl on this website pretend to care about tswifts jet emissions. like yall dont actively spread misinformation and propaganda about the animal agriculture industry (which is responsible for like 15% of greenhouse gas emissions vs the entire aviation industrys 2%) to the point where yall genuinely come off as climate change denialists. especially when most of u live in western countries, like sure the main problem is ceos putting profit over the environment and lobbying politicians to keep them from stepping in, but YOUR lifestyle is still fundamentally unsustainable. like do yall genuinely believe that when the rapture Revolution™ comes and we all live in peace and harmony with nature overnight that not a single thing about ur lifestyle is gonna change? that ur still gonna be eating dead animals three times a day? and i know theres little most ppl can do about how sustainable their lifestyle is especially when so many are just doing there best to make ends meet, but lets not pretend like all this hemming and hawing about how eating beans and rice is classist actually (despite meat consumption being positively correlated with GDP per capita and lower income americans being more likely to be vegan and vegetarian) and tswift flying home to see her bf every weekend is single handedly drowning the philippines is anything other than yall trying to assuage your guilt and cognitive dissonance by deluding yourself into thinking u have nothing to do with climate change

[deadpersonsuperstar]

So...there's a dog meat farm in Nottingham England...

Not Korea, Not China, Not Pakistan, Not even America as I'm not surprised there's dog meat farms in America cos America has some third world morals and values... But a dog meat farm in ENGLAND!!

Yes, England!

Elwood's Organic Dog Meat Farm...

Ju...just why!?

I don't care if the dog meat is organic or humane or whatever! It's disgusting!

Like...I know humans eat Pig, Cattle, Sheep and other farmed animals in England..But dog meat...That's just fucked up and beyond disgusting.

And yes...as a person who doesn't eat meat. Eating any animal is wrong in my eyes

But Dog Meat...you expect that in a third world country and not England!

Let's not be a first world country with third world morals like America!

[rachandruin]

Why do we call them "militant vegans" when "the leguminati" is right there

[boyfriendkissertd]

Itz rarepair season yall >///< (not rly)

[unicornachos]

Getting tired of seeing gotcha posts on Tumblr lately shitting all over vegans. They've gotten more common over the past few years...

Usually it'll be a post criticising a choice like maybe 3% of vegans actually make, or more usually an imaginary vegan they've pulled from thin air based on their own stereotypes and assumptions, followed by vibes along the lines of' "I know better, actually you don't care about sustainability or human rights at all! You're completely uneducated about (insert any topic here). Gotcha! Who's the morally superior one now, huh" Followed swiftly by the implication that there is no ethical consumption under capitalism, so why try at all.

Like yeah maybe there are some young idiot vegans who think buying pleather boots is ok for the environment, but every vegan I've ever met is more likely to get a second-hand pair of leather boots at an op-shop, because it's better for the environment. Every vegan I know has cared immensely about issues with soy and quinoa, about where their food comes from, about water use and microplastics, who picks their fruit and veg, and human rights in general. More than any non-vegans I know.

So why are we still constantly berated for not doing every single other thing that non-vegans want us to do? It's starting to feel like people have a very specific idea of vegans in their heads and need an outlet for weird anger and misery and frustration, and we're an easier punching bag than the large corporations and governments who dictate the rules of our late-stage capitalist hellscape, so why not have a go?

It really feels like people are unconsciously mad with themselves that they can't do more to help the world and possibly have unexamined issues or guilt with consuming animals themselves, and feel better about themselves after telling vegans they're just not doing their activism hard enough, and that everything they buy from the grocery store is a human rights violation, so really you're just as bad as the rest of us.

Idk man I just. It really feels like a lot of whataboutism most of the time from non-vegans who have a weird, skewed view of militant white vegans, while the majority of vegans (who aren't all white, might I add) are just living their lives, trying to make the world a slightly less shitty place. We should absolutely criticise racist white vegans. Take them the fuck down. I don't think you think vegans are who you think they are, though. Vegans are from intersecting identities just like everybody else, and come from many different countries. And also there are some silly, uninformed vegans with misplaced ideas, just like there are silly, uninformed non-vegans with misplaced ideas. But if you imagine a vegan to be someone you'd hate, it's a lot easier to ridicule them to make you feel like you're right and good.

I just wish that the people who make these posts and the folks who join in and/or reblog, would take a look at themselves and think about what they themselves are doing to prevent cruelty in this world, in any shape or form. Like are you painstakingly making sure you're not buying clothes with plastic in it? Are you checking the label of every food item you buy to make sure you knew where it came from? Do you only buy your veg from local farms within 10km or only eat things from your own garden? If not, idk what to tell you, but it's probably that you should give vegans a break if you're not doing all the very things you tell us we should be doing.

It just feels like a lot of misplaced anger. Why are you so, so enraged at vegans not being perfect people when you could be going and protesting outside the farms of migrant workers, if you're so pissed about where our fruit and veg comes from? If you're mad about fruit and veg, wait till you hear of the human rights abuses in abattoirs.

When someone tells a vegan that there's no ethical consumption under capitalism, it just feels like a cop-out. You're not trying so why should anyone else, right? I just think people should be allowed to try to make the world better in their own ways, and not be ridiculed for not living up to an unattainable standard set my non-vegans.

Being vegan is about doing the least harm you can, within your means. It's not an on-off switch- it's a sliding scale of effort to do less harm. It's not stupid to acknowledge unnecessary suffering and choose not to take part in what's within your means to abstain from. Some vaccines still use animal products. Some of my medication has animal product ingredients. Am I going to go off my meds and become an anti-vaxxer? No. Do I think Indigenous Peoples should stop eating the foods they have always eaten, often for tens of thousands of years before colonisation? Of fucking course not. It's possible try to unsubscribe to shitty things in this world without doing it perfectly. The whole world would be a lot better if most people consumed 70% less animal products, than 2% of the world doing veganism perfectly.

I think most non-vegans are too afraid of what they might find out if they actually research animal agriculture so they stubbornly make excuses not to bother. So that's their choice, but until you're as perfect as how you claim we should be, literally shut the fuck up and find something more productive to do with your time, like actively try to fight against the very things you think we've all somehow decided to turn a blind eye to. Because I bet the majority of people consuming whatever unethical product you've decided on aren't vegans.

Coming across one silly vegan on the internet doesn't mean you have permission now to write off the crucial need for our planet to massively reduce animal agriculture, and the possibility that you might potentially be able to opt out of it. Criticising veganism doesn't mean you've absolved yourself of any harm you yourself are doing, and also doesn't absolve you of finding ways to do less harm to people, animals, and the planet.

And if you're pissed about vegans having moral superiority, I'd really like to see non-vegans examine their own moral superiority they seem to feel they have over vegans.

Ok signing off lol

[superfuxkinghungry]

Why put a living breathing being into a world full of torture, racism, physical pain, mental illness, mental pain, disabilities, danger, murder, restrictions, and hate rather than just let your little children rest in a no pain feeling no thirst or hunger feeling forever state of unconsciousness? Sounds soooo much better than making those cute little babes suffer inflation, climate change, societal norm, and other nasty stuff 🥺🤢

[tilbageidanmark]

[threepoint14art]

super short little animation of Town to the song "Bouquet garni" !!!!!

the thing on his chin is a disposable mask he pulled down in case it wasnt readable U-U

[mississpissi]

it’s such a big pet peeve of mine when cooks get pissy about having to cook around dietary restrictions… like this is ur job! get creative! it’s an opportunity to try something new! ur telling me u can’t think of a SINGLE good dish without meat that’s not a salad?? u can’t come up with something delicious that doesn’t have dairy??? fuck u gordon ramsey for telling everyone vegan food is stupid. it’s such a lazy mindset.

[ultimateplaylistmaker]

Wait go back to discussing pescatarian Kokichi

I love theorising the eating habits(or habits in general) of characters

I think Nekomaru is vegan

And Aoi tried that cursed carnivore diet on tiktok before realizing a week in how stupid it is

Okay so in my mind Kokichi gives me a lot of vegetarian vibes. He doesn't mind not meat animal products, but he just doesnt like the idea of killing animals. It makes him feel weird and he has a LOT of thoughts about like commercial farming. So whenever possible he tries to avoid meat. However, as he's also a street kid with DICE that's not always possible and he's not stubborn enough to starve over a moral point, food is food when you don't have a plethora of options.

Which as a result of seeing him as very much the kind of person who grew up in like, a fishing area, boardwalk kid, meant there was a lot of fish. As such, when he did have to eat meat, it was often cheap fish or easily stolen fish. So he tolerated it when it came up even if he was likely to push it onto a different dice member if possible.

This only amplified when the tragedy happened and he couldn't afford to be picky, and ESPECIALLY not force DICE to be picky. Which resulted in a lot more fish being eaten and him and DICE even learning how to catch fish in the polluted waters of the ocean. He's since grown used to eating fish, since the fact that during the tragedy once the reserves ran out and they had to actively start doing things like fishing he knew exactly how the fish was caught and handled and thus how humanely it was killed.

This means he no longer has much of an objection for eating fish anymore as long as its a fish DICE or him caught and he's long gotten used to the taste, even if it's still not the main thing he eats. He still avoids other meats if possible, especially with how scarce animals in the tragedy can be making it much more effective to use them for milk or eggs or other more renewable features instead of one time of meat.

As such, I see Kokichi and overall his group as ideally pescatarian when they can afford to be

[drakkonyan]

Reminder that hating humans is not an alternative to loving nature. You add nothing by saying you wish human kind went extinct. You add nothing by saying humans are irredimable monsters. You are helping no harmed animal nor plant nor fungi nor microorganism by shitting on humans and, as a nature lover, you are my least favorite kind of "nature lover" because you don't like nature, you hate humans

[encouragink]

veganism discourse on this site drives me fucking nuts, people are so incredibly willing to uncritically believe anything that justifies consuming animal products. I saw someone in the notes in one of these posts go "ugh I cant believe vegans say that in the dairy industry male calves get slaughtered. That's not true for small family farms!" Like okay?? Does the dairy industry mainly consist of small family farms then??